---
title: "Everyone is winging it: Hope for an AI future"
page_name: "Everyone is winging it: Hope for an AI future"
type: "resource"
slug: "ep-13-everyone-is-winging-it-hope-for-an-ai-future"
published_at: "2025-10-07"
modified_at: "2026-06-16"
url: "https://www.sumologic.com/podcast/ep-13-everyone-is-winging-it-hope-for-an-ai-future"
canonical: "https://www.sumologic.com/podcast/ep-13-everyone-is-winging-it-hope-for-an-ai-future"
markdown_url: "https://www.sumologic.com/podcast/ep-13-everyone-is-winging-it-hope-for-an-ai-future.md"
lang: "en"
excerpt: "In this episode, we welcome Naomi Buckwalter, Sr. Director of Product Security at Contrast Security, to chat about the evolving landscape of security threats and the dual role of AI in both facilitating and combating these challenges. We explore the..."
taxonomy_resource_type:
  - "Podcast"
taxonomy_resource_solution:
  - "SecOps and Security"
---

[ All Podcasts ](https://www.sumologic.com/resources?_resource_type=podcast)# Everyone is winging it: Hope for an AI future

### Adam White

Sr. Director, Technical Marketing

### Naomi Buckwalter

Sr. Director, Product Security

### Zoe Hawkins

Director, Content Marketing

Speakers

In this episode, we welcome Naomi Buckwalter, Sr. Director of Product Security at Contrast Security, to chat about the evolving landscape of security threats and the dual role of AI in both facilitating and combating these challenges. We explore the increasing sophistication of modern phishing attacks and discuss how security teams must rapidly adapt to stay ahead of emerging threats. We debate the transformative impact of AI on the future job market, where personal qualities and soft skills may increasingly take precedence over traditional technical competencies.

Read more about the Sumo Logic and Contrast partnership: <https://www.contrastsecurity.com/security-influencers/application-layer-attack-investigations-in-minutes-sumo-logic-and-contrast-security>

Subscribe to the podcast: [sumologic.com/podcast](https://sumologic.com/podcast)

Check out [sumologic.com](https://sumologic.com)

Follow us on LinkedIn: <https://www.linkedin.com/company/sumo-logic/>

Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: <https://www.youtube.com/user/sumologic>

Reach out with any questions to <podcast@sumologic.com>

More Podcast

Explore More!

Explore more Sumo Logic Podcast

[Podcast

SEO isn’t just a marketing KPI anymore. It’s a security one.

 ](https://www.sumologic.com/podcast/seo-isnt-just-marketing-kpi-anymore-its-security-one)[Podcast

Think like a criminal: How to land your first security role

 ](https://www.sumologic.com/podcast/think-like-criminal-how-to-land-your-first-security-role)[Podcast

Tomato TomAHto, Potato PotAHto: A Transatlantic AI Divide](https://www.sumologic.com/podcast/tomato-tomahto-potato-potahto-transatlantic-ai-divide)

[AI Instructions](https://www.sumologic.com/ai-instructions.md)