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[ All Podcasts ](https://www.sumologic.com/resources?_resource_type=podcast)# Think like a criminal: How to land your first security role

### Adam White

Sr. Director, Technical Marketing

### David Girvin

Lead Technical Advocate

### Zoe Hawkins

Director, Content Marketing

Speakers

On this episode of Masters of Data, we tackle breaking into cybersecurity. David shares his journey from welder to AppSec manager, proving that career pivots are tough but doable. We explore entry points like SOC analyst, GRC, and application security roles, noting that penetration testing gigs are fiercely competitive. AI is reshaping the landscape, making technical skills more accessible while amplifying the need for critical thinking. Networking beats degrees. Side projects and hands-on certifications matter more than credentials. We discuss role bleed, where security professionals need broader skill sets than ever, and why initiative plus continuous learning are non-negotiable.

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